As one half of the greatest Ryder Cup pairing in
history, José Maria Olazábal has secured his place in
the legend of the biennial contest. In 2012 he will lead
the European team as captain, and he talked candidly
to Robert Green about this and other aspects of life
What is your all-time favourite
Ryder Cup memory?
There are many more than one but I’d
say two in particular. First would be
Muirfield Village in 1987, when I played
with Seve. The whole experience of that
first Ryder Cup, not knowing what it was
all about, playing with Seve, the crowds,
the noise – that was very special, and we
won then for the first time in America.
The second would be the hug that Darren
[Clarke] and I had on the 17th green
at the K Club in 2006. That was after I
had won my singles and of course he
had been through so much that week
[following the recent death of his wife].
Your worst Ryder Cup memory?
The saddest may be Brookline in 1999.
We had a good advantage going into the
singles but they managed to beat us. We didn’t play good enough on the last day.
I’m saying this about the whole thing,
not to do with what happened with me
when Justin Leonard holed that long
putt on the 17th green. It was very disappointing
to lose.
What’s your favourite Seve Ryder
Cup moment?
[Long pause.] I have to say there have
been many. There have been so many
experiences with him that are very personal.
There were many times when it
seemed we must lose but we somehow
kept going and we won, and often it was
because of the way Seve thought. The
way his mind worked. For example, on
the 2nd hole at Kiawah [in 1991] we
were in the water off the tee and eventually
we were lying five about 30 or 40
yards from the green. The Americans we
pretty much in the same place as us, but
in two shots. I said: “Seve, we’ve lost this
hole. Let’s go to the next tee.” He said:
“Wait a minute. Let’s see what sort of
shot they play. There is water around
the green. They might go in the water,
then they might chip on to the green for
five and take two putts for a seven. And
we can make seven from here.” He never gave up. At the 9th hole one time at
Muirfield Village, he blocked the tee
shot and I pitched out so we were 100
yards from the green in two. The American
ball was in the fairway on one. Before
Freddie [Couples] played his shot,
Seve said: “You know what? I think we
are going to win this hole.” I said: “Why
do you think that. The best we can do is
make four.” But Freddie just mishit his
shot and missed the green, Seve hit it to
four feet, and we won the hole with a
four. The way he thought about things
was amazing, also the ways he battled.
Most people do not feel the way he did.
What is the best shot you’ve ever hit?
Well, over 25 years I hope I have hit a
few good ones, but obviously it is the
context that matters. If I had to pick just
one, I’d say it was the 6-iron I hit to
three feet on the 16th hole on the last
day of the Masters in 1999. Greg [Norman]
and Davis Love were very close to
me but that birdie gave me a crucial
cushion to go on and win.
And the worst shot, the one you would
have again if you could?
Well, not that it was a bad shot, but if I
had a chance to hit it again, it would be
the tee shot on the last hole at Augusta
in 1991. I hit what I thought was a good
drive, intending to cut it around the corner.
But the ball bounced into the
bunker and I ended up bogeying the
hole. So that would be the shot I’d take
again – not because it was a bad shot but
I wish I had taken the 3-wood instead. I
lost the Masters by a shot to Woosie.
What’s your favourite golf course?
Well, Augusta is one of them. I like Castle
Pines, where we used to play The International,
and I love Loch Lomond.
Those three are perhaps my favourites.
What course haven’t you played that
you would most like to?
There would be a few, I guess. Except
for those courses that we play tournaments
on, I haven’t played that many.
I’d say Pine Valley is the one I would
most love to play. People who have
played it tell me it is simply an amazing
golf course.
Who would make up your perfect fourball?
[Another long pause.] Well, Michael Jordan
would be one. The thing with professionals,
of course, is that I’ve played
with most of them, but if I could then
Ben Hogan would be another. And obviously
Seve would have to be there.
Do you think Tiger will pass Jack Nicklaus’s
record of 18 major championships?
Yes, I believe that he will.
Which golfer do you admire the most?
I would say, again obviously, Seve, because
of the way he played the game
and his fighting spirit. And I’d have to
say Tiger as well. I admire his work
ethic, how well prepared he is mentally,
and to win majors is very difficult and
not only has he won so many, some of
them have been by huge margins. So
often he has hit the perfect shot or
made the perfect putt at a crucial time.
So that says a lot about him.
Which non-golf sports person do you
most admire?
Michael Jordan, for the way he played
basketball. [Rafa] Nadal, he is very impressive.
But it’s anyone who gets to
that level. I said Nadal but I could just as
easily have said [Roger] Federer or Fernando
Alonso. They need to have something
special to achieve what they do
achieve.
Outside of sports, whom do you most
admire?
Mandela. I would have to say him. After
all those years of being treated the way
he was treated, to not have bad words to
say about anybody, that is impressive.
Also, of course, what he has achieved in
his country.
OK, what is your favourite meal?
That is difficult to say. It’s pretty much
everything. I think where I live, around
San Sebastian, we are very spoiled.
Everything is so good – the meat, the
fish, everything – and I like it all, so I
could not say one thing is my favourite
over another.
Favourite drink?
I like red wine, especially I would say rioja.
Favourite movie?
The Last of the Mohicans is the one that
sticks in my mind. And lately, Avatar.
What’s your favourite way to relax?
Mostly, I would say hunting. I go with
my dad and a couple of friends. We
walk up in the hills and it is totally
peaceful and the views are fantastic.
You smell the plants and enjoy the
quiet. We stay in a small house that we
rent as a base, get up early in the morning
and go.
So after decades of underachievement,
Spain won the World Cup. Was it an
anti-climax or did it feel as good as you
would have hoped?
No, it was no anti-climax. During the
game, it was anxious because we were
playing good football but we weren’t
scoring, and Holland had chances to
score. Casillas made one great save. But
when Iniesta scored the goal, it was a
great moment – very emotional.
If you could change one rule of golf,
what would it be?
There are rules that I think that could
be changed today. When the ball gets
accidentally moved on the green, like
with Padraig Harrington in Abu Dhabi,
I think that sort of situation could be
looked at. Overall, the rules are correct
and the R&A and USGA do a good job,
but the way things are now, with television,
I think things about golf have
changed. For instance, a player might
go ahead to look at the green, see
where the flag is, and while he is there,
his ball might move a tiny bit for some
reason. On TV, in slow motion and
everything, you could see this had
happened, but the player would have
no way of knowing it. Maybe they
should look at the situation today
given the impact TV can have in this
way.
If instead of merely being the European
Ryder Cup captain in 2012, you
were in charge of Europe, what one
thing would you most want to do?
[A long pause again.] I think someone
could do with taking control of what
has been happening with the banks.
We have been in this mess because nobody
seems to know what has been
going on and controlling the situation.
What has happened in Ireland, Spain
and so on has been terrible. It would
be good to be able to do something
about that.
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